Friday, September 17, 2010

E-mails with Paul B.

This is part 2 of my series with Paul B. Part 1 can be found here. That infamous day I remembered Paul mentioning that he had bought a Gary Fisher Cronus that day as well. Well, eventually I found the craigslist ad. After being able to find out that it was legally purchased I started a conversation with him as the asking price was $500 over retail, a red flag.

Go ahead and read our exchanges, starting at the bottom. It is not hard to find his ad, so DO NOT use this info to harass the guy. If you want to investigate his honesty I will not hold you back, however. He is already getting the snot kicked out of him on this, so don't be take this any farther. If you are interested in his bike then certainly go at it. It is a very nice bike.

So again, start at the bottom and read the interesting story on this bike.

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Thu, September 2, 2010 2:17:49 PM
RE: Bike.
...
From:Paul B
To:Becky


I understand that you know that I am in a world of hurt. My options are slim. I am in a corner with a bike that I cannot afford, and being tried as a felon. Maybe that is what I need to change. I will change the listing. Bottom line, this is not the person I want to be. I do have a good family, but from their love I somehow fashioned nothing but a life of detrimental ways. I hope to look back at this point in my life and say those guys at the bike shop changed my life for the better. For now it just hurts. But thank you for assisting me in fixing my life.

~Paul


Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:38:21 -0700
From: Becky
Subject: Re: Bike.
To: Paul B.

Oh I see, I was wondering how you were going to do that. Well, here is the deal Paul. We are watching you. We know about the stolen bikes that you are being charged criminally for. We also know the "stories" you gave as to how you acquired them: ie your brother, girlfriend, found in a ditch, etc. We also know that you bought your Cronus at Brone's bike shop (a great shop btw). I simply wanted to see why you thought you could sell a $3,500 bike for $4,000. I guess you could casually and easily make up lies in conversation, why not e-mail?

Here is the deal, you are a con artist, and we have been following you and documenting. I will give you 2 options. One, you can bring down the price of your bike to a logical number and tell the truth to people as to what it is and where you got it. Option two, you can continue to try to defraud people. You have a large group of people in the bicycle community licking there lips that you choose option two. With that option you will see all hell reign down on you in legal and ethical ways (something you are not use to doing yourself). We are just giving you an opportunity to follow the right path.

I am not sure where you decided to become such a punk (sorry, I couldn't think of a better word to describe you). Was it running track in High School? Maybe when your Mom would drag you to St. Mary's Assumption? Maybe at Ironman WI? Wait, we both know that was a lie as well. Maybe it was something your sister did? She seems so nice, even picking up your car when you were in jail, so I doubt that is it. Your Mom seems nice enough to bring down the car keys from Arkansaw as well. Hmm, I don't know. Either way here is your chance to change.

We will continue to monitor the sale of the bike. If we still see falsehoods, than expect the worst. If not, than good luck selling your bike to pay for your attorney's fees. I suggest changing the craigslist ad first, and doing it soon.

From all of us to you.





From: Paul B,
To: Becky
Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 11:35:08 AM
Subject: RE: Bike.

Hello there Becky,
No I did not sell the bike yet. I have another guy that is going to be looking at it on the 10th. So if you decide to buy it before him then it't yours. He is still willing to pay 4,000, but i gave you a different price being that you are giving it as a gift. But I will be going out of town for a week being that the 7th is my birthday. Perhaps I can have my sisters fiance meet with you. If that would be ok. If you want the bike, I will sell it as low as 3,750. I hope all is well with you.

~Paul


Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 06:33:57 -0700
From: Becky
Subject: Re: Bike.
To: Paul B.

Paul,

Did you get this last e-mail? Did you sell the bike already? Please tell me you didn't.

Becky



From: Becky
To: Paul B.
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:41:19 PM
Subject: RE: Bike.

Yeah, I would be looking at the 7th. I would prefer someplace public. I could do the McDonald's on 55th st at noon?

Do you mind if my husband's friend comes with? He understands bikes a lot better than me as he works at a shop here in town. He just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to get taken for a ride, which I told him things were fine, but he worries. He just is suspicious of anything used. He just busted some jerk who had stolen 2 bikes and was trying to trade them in. I guess the guy got arrested and charged with a felony. Too bad being stupid is not illegal as well, huh? It disappoints me that there are jerks like that out there in the world, but he had a lot of fun getting that guy arrested! Chalk one up for the good guys.

Anyways, I look forward to meeting you. Thanks!

Becky






--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Paul B.> wrote:

From: Paul B.
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Becky
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:35 AM

well last year when I did it I finished in 9:42:45 which won my age group, but i couldnt walk the next 4 days. It is a grouling race. That is why i bought the Fisher, to further increase my time, but school is tougher than any race I have done. So I guess winning this race would be a 4.0 so I gotta keep going at it. Tuesday the 7th?


Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 07:35:35 -0700
From: Becky
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Paul B.

I want to see it when I have the money, which looks like next Monday. Can you meet on Tuesday?

How was the Ironman triathlon? Was it hard? How long did it take you? I am really curious as it sounds like a really hard event.

Becky



--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Paul B. wrote:---

From: Paul B.
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Becky
Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 7:40 PM

Haha, no this bike has not been riden in france. The opportunity came via my brother being friends with Lance, although Lance is not allowed to ride any other bike, but the Trek Madone basically. Funny huh. And from being sponsered I have other rights that most dont ie getting a bike specifically made for me. Only here in my hands has it been riden. Since I was there when it was being put together. A cross bike means that you just have to buy differents tires and rims for the bike and it can go "off road" so to say. I bought this bike specifically for the madison ironman triathlon. All that is necessary for converting it for a time trial would be aero bars which are take 2 mins to screw on and they are cheap like 40 bucks.
so when would you like to meet to look at the bikes.
~Paul


Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:09:24 +0000
From: Becky
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Paul B.

Wow, this sounds like a really cool bike. You actually got this through Lance? That is so cool. I suppose it wasn't ridden in France was it? Ha, ha. What is a cross bike, btw?

Just one last question. Would this bike work well for triathlons? He has been talking about trying those as he already runs and bikes.

Becky

--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Paul B. wrote:

From: Paul B.
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Becky
Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 12:36 PM

Sorry or being so vague. Basically a prototype is one of the first made and they are made with the best of components. So the bike that I have is a cross between the frame of the Ultimate with the components of the Pro. That is why i paid so much more. My brother rides with Lance Armstrong, and my brother caught wind of the new line coming out so he contacted me and i got ahold of the source to design me this bike specifically. That is why it is so nice, especially for the height of 5'8. So you are not missing anything. YOu are correct that the comercialized Cronus Pro does cost 3,695, but that is not what this bike is. It is the best of both worlds with a cheaper price.
sorry i replied separately.
~Paul


Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:28:18 -0700
From: Becky
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Paul B.

Paul,

That is great that it is the right size! I have been looking for something used for awhile. It looks like it is in great shape as well. I would like to come and look at it sometime next week.

I don't understand what you are saying about Lemond and Trek. This is a Gary Fisher correct? I found this bike on their website and it says it sells for $3,659. Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Becky



--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Paul B. wrote:

From: Paul B.
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Becky
Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:48 PM


Here are some pictures for you to look at so you can at least see it because it is different than the ones online and sold in stores.
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--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Paul B.

From: Paul B.
Subject: RE: Bike.
To: Becky
Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:36 PM

Hello there Becky. The Gary Lemond Cronus Pro PRESENTED by TREK is not the version that my bike is. My bike was one of the prototypes of the brand new line. Therefore higher density of oclv carbon. Better geometry than most biks. It was hand-made here in the US unlike the others even those from Waterloo are scetchy. Finest of grades for this product. If you are really interested, I can drop the price for you perhaps. As long as you believe that this is the bike for your husband. This is a bike that I would never get of rid in any other scenerio than this. I am sure he could give the love that this bikes deserves of course not taking of from yours. So for $3,650, which is the base price of their base model final sale on any website, is what i would sell it for to you. I am 5'8 and the bike was designed specifically for my height of 5'8. SO the height seems perfect for your husband. If you would like to talk to work something out like to ride it or inspect it, you can call me on my cell at 555-555-5555.
Thank you Becky

~Paul


Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:35:48 -0700
From: Becky
Subject: Bike.
To: sale@craigslist.org

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Hi,

I am looking at buying a road bike for my husband. I am really interested in you bike, but have a few questions though. What height would a 54cm fit? My husband is about 5'8". Also, you say you bought it for $5,200, but it says on fisherbikes.com that it sells for $3,569.99? Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Becky



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3 comments:

Mario said...

Simply awesome! He just played right into it.

About the IMWI lies--does he not think people can check results? What an idiot.

rideonpurpose said...

I thot u had too be over sees to lern how to sound lik a nigeerian skam artrist- the early emails are as bad as any of those I've gotten recently.

J-No said...

Who is the "we" that is monitoring him?

I think it's cool he did a 9:42 at IMWI on a 'cross bike. I think you are jealous that your bro does not ride with LA.